Another Team Wants to Race Full-Time

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According to an article posted last week on Racer.com, Marshall Pruett is reporting the Dreyer & Reinbold Racing (DRR) is strongly considering a return to being a full-time participant in the NTT IndyCar Series. With a new chassis and engine formula promised for the 2027 season, they figure that will be a good time frame to shoot for, when teams are on more even ground with little to no data to go on.

Of course, that is dependent on the promised timeline. I have seriously lost count of how many times a new chassis and/or engine has been promised, only to see it pushed back. By then, this chassis and engine formula will have been around for fifteen full seasons. Just yesterday, Penske Entertainment shared a proposed design from Dallara. Reports are that it shares many of the design components of the current car, as they are attempting to hold costs down by utilizing many of the same pieces. Some owners were apparently not thrilled with what they saw, saying it was too close in appearance to what we are accustomed to seeing. They say it lacks "wow-factor". Others, noting that this was just a concept and is not carved in stone, seemed to like the only slightly changed version.

When the DW12 made it’s debut in the spring of 2012, we were so relieved to finally get a new chassis. We considered it absurd at the time that the Dallara IR-03 ran for nine seasons from 2003 through 2011. The lifespan of the current chassis is promised to exceed the IR-03 by at least six seasons – and that’s if the current projected timeline does not get altered again. Does that mean we need to count on a new chassis lasting at least twenty years? If that’s the case, then this will probably be the last new chassis I’ll live to see – unless I live into my 90s. Anyway, I digress…

DRR has what is now a long involvement in IndyCar racing. They are one of only three teams who were around back in the old IRL days. Arrow McLaren draws its rots from Sam Schmidt Motorsports, which was founded in 2001; and Ed Carpenter Racing was originally Vision Racing, which was founded in 2005. DRR was founded in 2000, and still carries its original Dreyer & Reinbold name. All of the rest of the grid originated from CART or USAC (Foyt, Penske).

They are not known for their performance in IndyCar. In thirteen fulltime seasons from 2000 to 2012, they amassed one IndyCar win (Robbie Buhl) , four IndyCar podiums and two IndyCar poles. While their lack of tangible results is not impressive, they have rarely been a bottom-feeder. They almost always had a reputation of having well-prepared cars, and were more mid-pack. Until Dale Coyne Racing won their first race in 2009, I would have ranked DRR far ahead of Coyne and Foyt in performance.

Unfortunately, the team ran out of money early on in the 2013 season. After some decent runs with Oriol Servia, which included a sixth-place finish at Long Beach and a fourth-place finish at São Paulo – DRR made it be known if they found no more sponsorship, the Indianapolis 500 would be their last race of the season. Servia finished eleventh in the 500 that season, but their predictions came true. That race would be the last for DRR until the Indianapolis 500 the following year. Since then, they have been an Indy-only team, with the exception of the 2020 season, when they also ran the three races on the IMS road course. In the COVID-altered 2020 schedule.

In recent years, they have had some decent runs in the 500. Two years ago, Ryan Hunter-Reay gave the team an eleventh-place finish. Last year, Hunter-Reay qualified in the Firestone Fast Twelve and was having a good run, before being squeezed by Scott Dixon. Conor Daly finished tenth last year.

For next year, Hunter-Reay will return for his third 500 with DRR and Jack Harvey has been named as his teammate for 2025. With their partnership with Don Cusick, the future looks bright for this team in upcoming 500s.

But what about 2027, when Dennis Reinbold plans to return his local team to fulltime status? Things look a little more murky with the new charter system in place. This is what I feared, when the charter system was first conceived and ultimately put into place a few months ago. I feared it would discourage new teams from entering the series. Teams that have no charters will have to qualify their way into every race. Charter teams are guaranteed the first 25 spots on a grid that will be limited to 27 starting spots. PREMA will already be an non-chartered team trying to make each race in 2025. DRR in 2027 will make things even more crowded.

One thing I was unaware of until I read the Pruett article – teams without a charter must seek permission from Penske Entertainment to try and qualify for each race. You can’t just enter ad show up as you could last season.

I am still perplexed how series officials expect to grow the series with a charter system in place. The series is not flourishing to the point that they can afford to turn away teams that are wanting to race in their series. I’m sure I don’t fully understand the concept, but if a team with a solid history like DRR wants to expand to fulltime – they should be allowed to without so many restrictions. How are they expected to secure sponsorship, when their ability to participate in every single race is a huge question mark. Is the series really so flush with cash, that they can afford to send cars home on Saturday?

I am thrilled that DRR wants to expand into fulltime IndyCar racing. I hope that somehow the hurdles can be cleared where they can make the grid at every race. However, under the current structure – I’m not sure that’s possible. I see that as a huge problem that needs fixing.

George Phillips

9 Responses to “Another Team Wants to Race Full-Time”

  1. davisracing322's avatar
    davisracing322 Says:

    Here is the beep on the metal detector that’s worth a stop and a quick dig: “I am still perplexed by how series officials expect to grow the series with a charter system in place. The series is not flourishing to the point that they can afford to turn away teams that want to race in it.”

  2. I know this post is about DRR, but you also mentioned charters, so since that pandora’s box was opened, please forgive my morning rant………

    Since IndyCar issued the charters, can they also take them away? I’m referring to Dale Coyne Racing of course. Seems like it would have made a lot of sense for IndyCar to issue Dale’s 2 charters with the caveat that he needs to find a financial business partner who can provide the necessary stability to field two full-time programs with full time drivers or the series can pull his charters. Here we are, three months into the off-season, and once Juncos Hollinger announces their 2nd full time driver (which could happen this week or next), the only team left without any drivers will be, big surprise….DCR.

    We all love Dale, and I’m grateful for his participation in the series the past 40 years. But the late Dan Rooney of the Pittsburgh Steelers once said they pay players for what they can provide in the present, and hopefully the future, not for what they’ve done in the past. I feel like giving Coyne two charters is rewarding a team for the past and not for the value they bring to the series right now. I mean, last season’s DCR team was like an IndyNXT team competing in the IndyCar Series. This year, and I hope I’m wrong, is shaping up to be more of the same at DCR.

    My overarching point is……if a Denny Reinbold or some other prospective full-time owner puts together a properly funded/budgeted program in the future and wants to compete in the series, it seems ridiculous to me they have to find some back door into the series because meddling, inadequately funded teams like Dale Coyne Racing, and their different drivers from week to week are using up two of the almighty charters.

    End of rant. My apologies to Dale Coyne, who seems like a really good guy.

    • billytheskink's avatar
      billytheskink Says:

      I’m going to guess Dan Rooney never suggested the Bidwells or the Fords or the Davises have their franchises revoked…

      • Apples and oranges. The family’s you have reference have all won championships and have fielded competitive teams over the years.

        • billytheskink's avatar
          billytheskink Says:

          Now I do agree that the comparison is ultimately apples and oranges, but so is Dan Rooney’s quote on why football teams pay players. That is part of the point here… Coyne operates in a different environment than an NFL owner. He has seen dozens of racing teams fold while he has kept his operating. Few NFL owners have living memory of such an occurrence, and none that might were involved in ownership activities when teams folding was even considered a possibility. But no legacy NFL ownership family holds an NFL franchise because they won championships or fielded competitive teams, they hold NFL franchises because they founded major pro football teams back when that was possible and kept operating them into the era in which they became tremendously valuable and profitable no matter how well the team performs (and all of those families have overseen Coyne-esque stretches of on-field ineptitude). Coyne being rewarded for his team existing should not be any more offensive than the same thing in other franchised professional sports.

          And even so, Coyne has won races and put cars in the top 10 in the championship. His team has done both of those things more recently than the Bidwells and the Davises have won a playoff game, and one or both more recently than multiple other existing Indycar teams (Carpenter, Foyt, Juncos, Shank, and most definitely DRR).

  3. ‘sigh…..’, the Charter System.

  4. The charter system is ok but capping the field at 27 is insane, no growth at all. I can’t believe Prema agreed to come to Indycar without charters! It’s stupid, make charters, fine, but don’t cap the field at a line you are already at!

  5. Matthew Lawrenson's avatar
    Matthew Lawrenson Says:

    To quote the great Angelica C. Pickles – it’s not a club unless some people aren’t allowed in.

  6. For D&R to go full time they will need to buy an existing team. As they have been unable to fund a full season for a number of years I very much doubt they will be able to buy an exiting team and fund it. Seems to me that Don Cusick or another investor needs to buy or buy into Coyne and really soon as the other teams are financially sorted I expect now for 2025. Juncos have problems obviously however I reckon Hollinger more likely to up his investment rather than sell at this stage. Yes the Charter system needs to be out at 28/30 cars not looking at 25 but that means the present owners cannot create value for themselves. It’s a scam in some ways, a “ closed shop. “ but a forgone conclusion when you see it in F1, F2, F3, NASCAR and ball games.

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